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On this episodes of the #captainslog, Dr. Daller joins Captain Brien again! Dr. Daller is here to tell us all about intermittent fasting! Dr. Daller and Captain Brien discuss who should and should not be doing intermittent fasting, how to eliminate gut fat quickly, and how intermittent fasting can even help you remember better! If you have ever wondered about intermittent fasting, tune into this podcast to have your questions answered!
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Captain Brien: Welcome back, guys, to Captain’s Log! Dr Daller, thanks for joining me, buddy.
Dr. Daller: I’m doing fantastic, how are you, buddy?
Captain Brien: I’m good, we’re gonna take a ride, let’s do it.
Dr. Daller: Absolutely.
Captain Brien: You gotta tell me about intermittent fasting.
Dr. Daller: Intermittent fasting, so so many patients, so many people, ask about intermittent fasting. They say, first of all for disclaimer, I did not invent intermittent fasting. A lot of people associating that with you. Not with me, not at all.
Captain Brien: You’re a fan of it, though?
Dr. Daller: I am big time, fan of that.
Captain Brien: Yeah.
Dr. Daller: I have been intermittent fasting for 12 years and I’m a believer. And I guarantee people, which I don’t like to use the term guarantee in medicine, I guarantee people you are going to lose your belly fat, you’re going to lose part of your body that you don’t like from intermittent fasting. So first of all intermittent fasting has been around, Brien, for about 35 to 4,000 years. 4,000 years, biblical time, people–
Captain Brien: 4,000?
Dr. Daller: Of course! In biblical times, people used to have one meal a day at dinnertime if they were lucky. On a good day they had one meal a day. And that was very, very good for them. They never had, you know, for breakfast milk with cereal and they didn’t have all the junk that we have and they didn’t have protein bars.
Captain Brien: Okay, so I’m gonna interrupt you because people always say, “Oh you have to have four meals. “You have to eat as soon as you’re hungry. “Your body’s gonna store fat.” Tell me what–
Dr. Daller: Okay, first of all–
Captain Brien: Why is everyone making the change now to fasting?
Dr. Daller: It’s a myth and a folk lore. What do I mean by that? You know, every mother is tell to the kids, you know, you have to have breakfast and you are sure that you eat all the time and you should not keep your sugar low and you should do that. And it’s true, for kids that are growing they should eat all the time and they should definitely have breakfast and they should eat as much as they can. Why, because they are growing.
Captain Brien: Right
Dr. Daller: But Brien, you are growing out, you are not growing up.
Captain Brien: ‘Course.
Dr. Daller: So for kids, absolutely, their mother is right. They should have all the things that we talked about they should do, they should have breakfast, they should not do intermittent fasting and everything else.
Captain Brien: Okay, but when they say that your body stores the fat if you are hungry–
Dr. Daller: No, no.
Captain Brien: What happened, they used to say that?
Dr. Daller: I know, I know, I remember.
Captain Brien: So that’s why they used to say, used to eat a lot.
Dr. Daller: I remember when they were talking about, you know, keep your blood sugar at the same level–
Captain Brien: Right!
Dr. Daller: Because if you are going to hunger your body is going to go to an emergency–
Captain Brien: Right!
Dr. Daller: And store fat.
Captain Brien: That’s exactly right!
Dr. Daller: I remember that. So all the research, every research from Johns Hopkins to Mayo Clinic to everywhere to Mass General shows that that’s not true. First of all, there are two hormones that we are going to talk about today. One, it’s called insulin, the other one is called human growth hormone. So insulin is the hormone that when you eat something it tells the body to start storing stuff. For example, storing fat, it makes your body store glycogen in your liver and after the liver is full of glycogen it will go into fat. So when you are starving yourself this goes into reverse. So insulin is going to go down as a result of that you’re going to utilize your glycogen in your liver. In your liver you have about 11 hours, and that’s important. Remember that number, 11 hours of storage, of energy that you have in your liver that you can use. After that you’re going to use fat. So, for example, why is it so important to exercise high-intensity exercise? Because you are going to use that glycogen faster and all of a sudden you are going into burning into fat.
Captain Brien: So I like to eat at dinner.
Dr. Daller: Yeah.
Captain Brien: And then, a lot of times I’ll have my coffee and go all the way ’til like 2 o’clock. But, sometimes if I got to the gym, I feel like, oh man, I feel like I’m starving.
Dr. Daller: Right.
Captain Brien: Is it okay to hit the gym during that time?
Dr. Daller: Absolutely, absolutely. I love in your head, right, it’s in your head to say–
Captain Brien: That’s what it always is!
Dr. Daller: You know, I’m going to the gym, you know, I want to, either after the gym or before the gym, “Oh, I’m going to the gym, “I’m going to use a lot of energy.” How much energy do you use at the gym? 250 calories on a good day, 300 calories if you kill yourself. It’s not a lot, you have plenty of reserve–
Captain Brien: My watch says five, six hundred.
Dr. Daller: I don’t believe that watch. So, I mean, you really have to kill yourself for six, seven hundred which people do. I mean, you can do 700, you can do, in one hour 700 calories. Still, in your liver you have more than you need to use that, you have plenty of reserve. So, you should–
Captain Brien: So don’t worry, if you’re hungry you could still work out?
Dr. Daller: Absolutely, absolutely, and again, that hunger is in your head, you can definitely–
Captain Brien: You gotta overcome it.
Dr. Daller: You can fast for, I believe in fasting for 16 good hours. So 16 hours of fasting, eight hours of eating. So during the night, it’s very easy to do. During the night, Brien, you don’t eat anyways, right? So you have six, seven, eight hours that you don’t eat. And then you wake up in the morning and the first thing you think about, “Well, I should eat something.” Why you should eat something? You’re not even hungry, it’s in your head that you need to eat something. Now, if you don’t eat something and now, eight hours, plus another four, five hours, now you are done with your glycogen storage, you are done with your glycogen storage and you start burning fat. And you burn fat and you lose that gut, the fat in your visceral, visceral fat is the fat around your liver, around your stomach, inside your belly. It’s like an organ by itself that visceral fat. And that’s very, very important to do to lose that gut fat.
Captain Brien: And that happens after how many hours?
Dr. Daller: So that happens, it depends if you exercise or you don’t exercise. If you exercise, which I encourage people do do, high-intensity exercise, that can happen after 10 hours. But if you wait for 16 hours, all this time is fat burning. It’s clean fuel that you’re using. You’re burning fat, you’re burning fat, you’re burning fat. Now it’s important, again, we talked about insulin and we talked about human growth hormone. Human growth hormone is the hormone, it’s an anabolic hormone and it occurs only when you don’t have food in the system when you don’t have that glycogen. At nighttime HGH goes up. Now if you start eating, the moment you eat HGH goes down, human growth hormone goes down. As a result of that you don’t have, human growth hormone help you burn the fat, help you build muscle et cetera. So these are the two hormones that are very important. Insulin and human growth hormone that are essential, essential in intermittent fasting. So I read several articles, one article that I want to talk about is from Johns Hopkins. And this article shows that patients that did, if I remember it was about rats and other animals that they did studies on, to see if intermittent fasting is going to help them with dementia and Alzheimer. And they show on the rat model that intermittent fasting is going to make you remember things better. So, whether you’re going to be in a maze or whatever, wherever you’re going be or going to do it even better.
Captain Brien: You’re sharper?
Dr. Daller: You are sharper. And I know that for myself, when you know, when you eat something, you know, with a lot of sugar and everything you have that sugar high and then a low. When you are, when I’m fasting I don’t eat until 12.30 probably, everyday.
Captain Brien: When you’re fasting can you still have coffee?
Dr. Daller: I have coffee, I have black coffee.
Captain Brien: Okay, but no sugar?
Dr. Daller: No sugar, very important.
Captain Brien: What about almond milk in your coffee?
Dr. Daller: Again, a little bit, later on after you feel better with yourself, you clean the fat, you can have a little bit almond milk.
Captain Brien: But otherwise the whole time fasting no sugar, nothing, just water?
Dr. Daller: As much as you want water, unlimited water.
Captain Brien: For me, you could give me a whole list of water. I’d believe it!
Dr. Daller: As much as you like, all different kinds of water! Kinds of water.
Captain Brien: Wow, how generous.
Dr. Daller: So whatever you want, water. And you know, again, I guarantee people the intermittent fasting is going to work for you. It worked for me, it worked for all my patients. I mean, probably by now we’re about 4,500 patients that we did that. One guy lost 160 pounds in two years, he was doing intermittent fasting.
Captain Brien: Changing nothing else?
Dr. Daller: Nothing else.
Captain Brien: You’re kidding me.
Dr. Daller: I mean, when I say nothing else, he ate healthy in between.
Captain Brien: Right, right.
Dr. Daller: He didn’t go to McDonald’s, Taco Bell or fast food. He didn’t use processed food, he didn’t have, you know, refined sugar, he didn’t have danishes. He did intermittent fasting–
Captain Brien: What about cheesecake?
Dr. Daller: No.
Captain Brien: Did he have cheesecake?
Dr. Daller: No cheesecake, Brien, absolutely no cheesecake.
Captain Brien: No cheesecake.
Dr. Daller: No cheesecake. But again, again I don’t want to sound like the crazy doctor. From time to time you have to live a life.
Captain Brien: Yeah.
Dr. Daller: You have to enjoy life. If a spoonful, of I don’t know what, makes you happy, whether it’s an ice-cream sundae or cheesecake, do it! I mean, if that’s what make you happy, do it. But the whole idea is the majority of the time you are not going to do stuff like that because you are going to enjoy an apple. When you take a bite of an apple it’s delicious.
Captain Brien: You get all the nutrients.
Dr. Daller: An apple a day will keep the doctor away. I believe in that, I mean, all the fiber, everything that’s good for you–
Captain Brien: So wait, now, here’s another thing I have a question about. So, during the fasting, can I do the apple cider vinegar?
Dr. Daller: Yes, because it’s water and apple cider and a tablespoon full of apple cider vinegar, absolutely. It will make you feel full, it’s going to help your metabolism, I do that. So I have apple cider vinegar in the morning and at night. A glass full six to eight ounces of water with a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar. I mix it, I drink it, you know it’s acquired taste. Most people say it’s disguising.
Captain Brien: Can be, right.
Dr. Daller: But you know what, everything in life that we learn that tastes good we, just somebody told us it tastes good. You know, when you had that spoon of something else–
Captain Brien: Oh really?
Dr. Daller: Your mother told you–
Captain Brien: Do you tell your taste buds it’s healthy?
Dr. Daller: Yes, because it’s natural–
Captain Brien: Yeah, you like that, it’s good!
Dr. Daller: I mean why–
Captain Brien: Goes on good!
Dr. Daller: I mean why, we learn how to eat stuff that is cooked and then we learn how to eat stuff that is sweet and then we learn how to eat… Because, no, as a child we are learning stuff that we’ll say, “Well, I don’t like okra, “and I do like this.” “Why you don’t like okra? “Who said you don’t like okra?” I mean, it’s like somebody, oh you know, you looked at your brother and you say, “Oh, my brother said it’s disgusting. So I heard it’s disgusting.”
Captain Brien: He doesn’t like the texture.
Dr. Daller: I don’t like the texture, I don’t like the feel, how it feels when it’s in my mouth. So again, going back that study from Johns Hopkins about memory, because again, things that scare people it’s dementia and Alzheimer and things like that.
Captain Brien: Right.
Dr. Daller: Because we are looking at, we want to live a healthy life. And you know, I always say healthcare is a big business. They are not in the business of keeping you healthy because there is business in disease. There’s no money in health.
Captain Brien: That’s right, there’s no money in sick, in not going to the doctor.
Dr. Daller: There’s no, in not going to the doctor. So you have to take care on your own. You have to understand that, you know what, I don’t want to have dementia, I don’t want to have Alzheimer, I don’t want to take any of the Aricept or any pills for dementia or Alzheimer. I want to do whatever it takes. So what does it take? It take intermittent fasting, it takes exercise, it takes health living. Exercise is key for dementia and Alzheimer.
Captain Brien: What about CoQ10?
Dr. Daller: No, really, no good study shows that the other supplements that we are taking are any beneficial. But starvation, when we say the 16 hours of quote-unquote starvation, even though, again, years after years, for thousands of years we never had breakfast. Years after years we didn’t have processed food and we did very well. People were lean and, you know, they looked fantastic. And now we have processed food and everybody is eating all the time and let’s grab some more food, and let’s grab more food and let’s grab more food. So again, I have nothing wrong with going to a restaurant, having a nice dinner. It’s a social event, absolutely enjoy your food. Go, have a good food. Enjoy good seafood, enjoy good fish, enjoy good oysters whatever you would like to do, but again, the rest of the day, you know, skip that cereal with milk. Skip that, it’s not good for you.
Captain Brien: What do you do when the people say, “I’m so hungry, “I can’t concentrate, I can’t do it.” How long can they fast for?
Dr. Daller: So I don’t recommend starting with 16 hours. I recommend starting with, slowly, you know. Instead of you normally have breakfast at seven, now move it to eight and then move it to nine o’clock and ten o’clock and eleven o’clock and then noontime and all of a sudden you’re not even hungry at noontime. And you realize that, you know what, I’m really not hungry.
Captain Brien: Yeah.
Dr. Daller: And, Brien, trust me it’s wonderful. It’s wonderful for your body, it’s wonderful to get rid of the belly fat, it’s wonderful for most diseases such as diabetes and everything else, coronary artery disease. And, again, Alzheimer and dementia and other, I mean, now they’re working on Parkinson disease and other neurological diseases. Some people say, “How do you explain that?” so I always look, you know, anything I say in biology I need to have an explanation. So just think about it, 5,000 years ago, 3,000 years ago, when you were hungry, or you are an animal and you are hungry your brain has to be sharp to find food. You cannot say you know what, I’m going to become, you know, I’m not going to be–
Captain Brien: It’s this your theory or is this real?
Dr. Daller: This is my theory. Completely my theory, but I need to explain to myself–
Captain Brien: I like it, it’s a good idea!
Dr. Daller: I need to explain to myself, I’m saying, okay, you know thousands of years ago when we hunt–
Captain Brien: ‘Cause you gotta be a sharp hunter.
Dr. Daller: I have to be sharper hunter when I’m hungry. When I’m not hungry, when I’m sitting down I already have my food in my mouth, you’re not that sharp. But when you are hungry, same with animals, when they are hungry they become sharp, they have a strategy, how to attack the other animal, how to get the food, what to do to get to the water source, what to get to that food source.
Captain Brien: I like that idea. So when you–
Dr. Daller: I like the fact that you caught that it wasn’t based on science. It was based on my true beliefs.
Captain Brien: You sounded, it sounded legit as hell.
Dr. Daller: Sounded legit.
Captain Brien: I would say, this is a good idea.
Dr. Daller: That reality, no.
Captain Brien: We should–
Dr. Daller: It’s my theory completely, completely my theory.
Captain Brien: We could write a whole thesis on it.
Dr. Daller: Completely.
Captain Brien: Yeah. So what happens when you break the, you break the fast?
Dr. Daller: Sure.
Captain Brien: Should you be bummed out and not do it anymore?
Dr. Daller: No, no, no, no.
Captain Brien: Then you start it right back up? ‘Cause people want to do this.
Dr. Daller: Absolutely, so every day I do that and every day I break the fast, again, break fast, I break the fast around 12/12.30, I have my food. You know I try to eat healthy food. From time to time I cheat a little bit and I will have some dessert or whatever it is. No big deal, not the end of the world, live a life a little bit. And the next day it’s another day. And you know, this is a lifetime–
Captain Brien: What happens if one day you fast, you stop eating at 7 o’clock at night, you start eating the next day at 10 o’clock?
Dr. Daller: Sure.
Captain Brien: That’s.
Dr. Daller: And that’s, you know–
Captain Brien: It’s not set every day?
Dr. Daller: No, and you know what–
Captain Brien: You just try to go as long as possible?
Dr. Daller: No.
Captain Brien: What do you do?
Dr. Daller: I try to do 16 hours.
Captain Brien: 16 hours?
Dr. Daller: 16 hours. Sometime it’s 17 hours that I go fasting, sometimes 16–
Captain Brien: But what’s the breaking point? After 12 hours you starting burning?
Dr. Daller: You start burning. But the best, if you really want to burn, you know you want to shred, 16 hours ideal. Again, Brien, sometimes we have friends over for brunch, and you know, I start eating at 11. Not the end of the world, we are not fanatic here. We are just giving advice about–
Captain Brien: So do you stop eating then again, start again, or should you just eat your normal day and then–
Dr. Daller: No, I would start having my brunch at 11 and I will have, you know, in my Bloody Mary with Captain Brien vodka, you know it’s delicious–
Captain Brien: Very good, very good.
Dr. Daller: Absolutely, it’s nutritious.
Captain Brien: It is, it’s sugar-free, gluten-free, all organic, all natural, did you know that?
Dr. Daller: And a good mixture for the Bloody Mary, of course, and all the vegetables inside, right?
Captain Brien: Yeah.
Dr. Daller: So you feel like you have a garden variety there. And then we’re going to have whatever we have for the brunch. But I may stop eating at 7pm instead of 8pm that day.
Captain Brien: But what happens if you break it, say you planned on fasting that day and you wake up and you just, without even thinking, you go and get coffee and a fricken’ Egg McMuffin? And all of a sudden, like, it’s the morning. Do you stop eating now again until maybe like, try to go during the day? Or no, it’s too hard during the day?
Dr. Daller: I think you ruined it with the Egg McMuffin.
Captain Brien: Done, right, done?
Dr. Daller: It’s done. So, you know what, and you know in medicine we say, “From time to time shit happens.” And shit happens, you know, from time to time you have, you’re in an airport and there’s nothing else to eat besides McDonald, whatever it is, so you do it.
Captain Brien: That’s very scientific.
Dr. Daller: Very scientific.
Captain Brien: Shit happens.
Dr. Daller: Shit happens. So I’m sure there’s a study about shit happens. So, from time to time, shit happens and you move on and you continue. The next day is another day, not the end of the world. We are not fanatic here. Human beings survived and animals survived, who survived? The one that were malleable, the one that were able to adjust. The one that were strict and were not able to adjust they don’t survive, so you know–
Captain Brien: How many days can you be successful? Can you fast for four days a week if you do 12 to 16-hour fasting? Or what?
Dr. Daller: I fast every day, every day I fast for 16 hours. But you can do it five/six days a week and the rest you don’t. But again, I want it to be a lifestyle of people that they are going to say, “You know what, “that’s very doable, I can do this.” The reason diet is such a big–
Captain Brien: A breakfast, we’re not sponsored apparently by any breakfast restaurants.
Dr. Daller: No, the Denny’s don’t like us at all.
Captain Brien: We are not sponsored by IHOP, apparently.
Dr. Daller: IHOP for sure, they don’t like us. But again, it has to be a lifestyle. It has to be something that you are going to understand and it makes sense to you and you can do it. The reason, you know the diet industry is huge in America because people gain weight and lose weight and lose weight and gain weight and everybody writes a book how to do it. And then everybody is selling you food. You cannot buy that, that food you should buy at Publix, at Whole Food, at Fresh Market, wherever you buy. Walmart, wherever you buy your food.
Captain Brien: So you shouldn’t eat Lean Cuisines all day?
Dr. Daller: You should not, absolutely not, because again–
Captain Brien: Or Jenny Craig?
Dr. Daller: It will never work.
Captain Brien: It doesn’t.
Dr. Daller: It’ll work for the short term.
Captain Brien: No way.
Dr. Daller: Short term it always works. When you cut your calories it will work. But again, what’s going to happen? You’re going to go back to pizza, that will never work. And again, I have nothing against pizza. I want people to understand that. From time to time, you know, this weekend we went to, in Naples we went to True Food Kitchen.
Captain Brien: Oh yeah, I know.
Dr. Daller: And we had a pizza, it was delicious. But we order one pizza and we were four people and each one of us had a slice and and a half and it was fantastic.
Captain Brien: And then the server came and said, “Hey, are you gonna pick and spend some money, what, what’s going on? Jesus, what can I get you, four waters split three ways?
Dr. Daller: I know!
Captain Brien: Poor guy, oh my God!
Dr. Daller: No, we had other food too.
Captain Brien: Okay.
Dr. Daller: That was very close.
Captain Brien: Phew!
Dr. Daller: We didn’t just come four people.
Captain Brien: Jeez!
Dr. Daller: Oh, that’s funny.
Captain Brien: Did you tell ’em, “I’m dining, thank you, we’re fasting!” And the guy looks at you and says, “What’d you come “to my restaurant for, you son of a bitch?”
Dr. Daller: Fasting time!
Captain Brien: Jeez! Nah, that’s the greatest, when you have somebody come on as, “Today, I’m on the Atkin’s diet.” “Oh, you’re gonna eat 12 pounds of meat in my house?” “Oh, okay, let me cook two pounds “of bacon extra for breakfast.” Tomorrow, you’re not on that diet but today you’re on that diet. Drives me crazy. I’ve got a guy coming up against, coming up behind me with lights on, let me let him go.
Dr. Daller: Oh, it’s a–
Captain Brien: It’s a, like an ambulance, yeah.
Dr. Daller: Ambulance, ambulance, all right. Somebody was not doing intermittent fasting.
Captain Brien: Yeah, that’s what happens–
Dr. Daller: That’s what happens! That’s what happens when you don’t–
Captain Brien: That’s what happens, right away.
Dr. Daller: Do intermittent fasting, there’s an ambulance behind you.
Captain Brien: So with the intermittent fasting you do a lotta water?
Dr. Daller: Plenty of water, water is extremely important. Nobody drinks enough water, I don’t drink enough water. I try to push water and water and water.
Captain Brien: Yeah, I’m the same.
Dr. Daller: So what do I do in order to drink a little bit more water? I cut some slice of lime or lemon or orange or tangerine in my water, or put mint in my water to give it a little hint, a little flavor, so it will feel like I want to drink more.
Captain Brien: I just saw this, supposedly the Olympic athletes are doing it, where you, it’s a powder that you add to your water, and it makes you retain three times the amount of water that you would normally. Have you heard about this?
Dr. Daller: No, I mean–
Captain Brien: We should look into it.
Dr. Daller: We should look into that.
Captain Brien: So it’s something that, so for every glass of water that you drink it’s as healthy as drinking three glasses of water?
Dr. Daller: Let’s look into it.
Captain Brien: We need to find out.
Dr. Daller: And then we get back to the audience next week.
Captain Brien: Okay, we’ll talk about it.
Dr. Daller: Absolutely.
Captain Brien: Yeah.
Dr. Daller: That sounds interesting even though I don’t believe all the chemicals, I don’t like chemicals, but we’ll see. Maybe it’s good chemicals?
Captain Brien: Maybe it’s good stuff?
Dr. Daller: You never know. It’s good stuff, made in China stuff, you know.
Captain Brien: Oh, well guys.
Dr. Daller: Chinese chemicals.
Captain Brien: I hope you learned a little bit about the Captain, on the Captain’s log today. Dr Daller’s a big fan of the fasting. I’m a big fan of the fasting and now I’m just gonna have to do more. I can’t eat a pizza tonight, that’s all, no pizza. No pizza for you either, doctor. Don’t go to True Food and get ten people one pizza. It’s not gonna work. The poor guy can’t make any money, the server.
Dr. Daller: I know, I know.
Captain Brien: You gotta–
Dr. Daller: We left on a good thing, very good thing.
Captain Brien: Okay I believe it, I believe it everything. Thanks buddy.
Dr. Daller: Thank you so much.
Captain Brien: We’re good, we’re good. Have a good day guys, we’ll see you tomorrow.
Dr. Daller: Bye bye.
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